Versus Trump is a podcast where we discuss how the Trump Administration is breaking the law, and what people are doing about it. Listen in the player below or directly on Soundcloud, and subscribe here with any podcast player or here in iTunes.

Versus Trump is hosted by Jason Harrow, Easha Anand, and Charlie Gerstein. You can listen to previous episodes, and access archived show notes, here.

This Week’s Episode: "GG Case + Patti Goldman"

On a new episode of Versus TrumpTake Care's podcast, we discuss the status of G.G. v. Gloucester County School Board, a major case about transgender rights, and then speak with Patti Goldman of Earthjustice about an important lawsuit that her organization has filed. 

We lead off this week [start-34:40] with a roundtable discussion of the G.G. case, which is a challenge to a public school's policy that requires students to use bathrooms that correspond to their "biological gender." After recapping what's happened so far in the case, we evaluate the arguments for and against each side, discuss a controversial New Yorker article that wondered about the interests of those traumatized by sexual assault, and disagree somewhat about the overall attitude so far of the Trump Administration on LGBT rights.

In our interview segment [35:10-57:50], Charlie speaks with Patti Goldman, the managing attorney of EarthJustice's Seattle office. Patti discusses a legal challenge to the so-called "2-for-1" executive order, which requires agencies to repeal two regulations for every new regulation that is adopted. She discusses the role of the executive branch in directing agency rulemaking, what the immediate impact of the executive order has been and what proposed regulations are being held up, and the future of the litigation.

Our discussion segment closes with listener feedback, including our first voicemail! [57:50-end.] You can be caller number two: 505-333-8106.

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Links

G.G. Discussion

  • All of the legal documents in the G.G. case, including the most recent round of amicus briefs, can be found here.
  • The Obama Administration's two "dear colleague" letters are here and here. The Trump Administration's letter rescinding the guidance on transgender bathroom access is here.
  • The New Yorker post by Jeannie Suk Gersen claiming there is now "a potential Title IX collision course" between the federal government's "directives on sexual violence and on bathrooms" is here.
  • A report that Ivanka and Jared stood up for LGBT rights is here.
  • An article detailing Republican Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen's slam of the White House over transgender rights is here.
  • Easha also mentioned other evidence of the Trump Administration's additude on LGBT rights, including the removal of a website with information about LGBT rights and the deletion of a question about LGBT status from the census.
  • All of Take Care's coverage about LGBT rights is here.

Patti Goldman Interview

  • Earthjustice's page on the "one-in, two-out" litigation is here.
  • The challenged executive order is here.

Listener Feedback

  • Zach Price mentioned his paper "Law Enforcement as Political Question," which discusses why citizens typically have no judicial recourse if the executive branch refuses to enforce a violation of the law. It's available for free download here